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Isn’t it weird how there’s fog in certain areas [in basements like that] but not in other spots?
Weird indeed, but somehow appropriate!
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After we spoke to the gentlemen on the top floor of this place and heard about the cops finding bodies here, I half expected to stumble upon something macabre while we were winding our way through the basement. It had to be 40 degrees colder down there, with a misty fog in areas and patches of ice on the walls and the floor. It was creepy.
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Oooooooo thats right. They found a body there but they thought the suspect may have been a transient that was using the railways to get in and out of town unnoticed. It might not even have been this spot. There is virtually nothing written about this online and its almost impossible to read about it.
They had a special on the local news about an old railway station that was haunted and an old railroad car that was supposedly haunted and I think they may have briefly mentioned the connection.
Long story short I could be mixing up my facts but this reminded me of that :)
I love this stuff. Not the murders, of course, but how history and legend intersect. After spending hours in this place it’s understandable how one could connect it to murders. Here’s a flashlight shot of the cold, dank, stalactite encrusted basement:
A marvelous piece of industrial history. Initially, the property just to the left of the larger building in the center right back was the East Cleveland Railroad Company, which became the Cleveland Electric Railway Company until they vacated their buildings in 1917. The Cleveland Ice Machine Company took over some of the CERC Power House—the large buildings at the top of the photo—and in 1922 Westinghouse Electric moved in. The 5-story addition, from which this photo was taken, was finished that year. In 1933 Westinghouse began moving out. In 1936 Thompson Products purchased several buildings and then another in 1941. Thompson would later buy Tapco and a consolidation left this complex to Tapco, Pump Division. In 1958 Thompson merged with Ramo-Wooldridge to become TRW; in 1961 TRW announced a move and sold this complex to an attorney. Meanwhile, in 1936, Virden Manufacturing (south of the old Cleveland Electric Railway Co.) began using a portion of the facility. Virden operated until 1980. I don’t know if any other entity occupied these buildings after this point. We did, however, find cancelled JC Virden Co. Employees Federal Credit Union checks in the basement.
I can OD on this shit.
I do believe there were some infamous murders here. The Torso Murders of Kinsbury* Run
This is fascinating. Upon exploring the upper floor of the Cedar Ave. portion of the complex, we came upon a couple of graffiti writers doing a piece. They had been thrown out previously by the police, who told them that bodies had been discovered in the buildings (perhaps to prevent their return). Of course that didn’t stop them from returning.
The Cleveland Torso Murderer, aka the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run, was a serial killer who murdered, decapitated, and dismembered at least 12 victims during the mid-late 1930’s.
After some research, I couldn’t find any connection whatsoever to this industrial complex. Considering one of the victims was found near the old Hart Manufacturing building on E. 20th Street, with a railroad spur directly north of the plant, I can understand the how through the years people might have linked some of the murders to this decaying site. However, I think this is most likely an urban myth.
Q:Your pictures are awesome!
Thanks, I truly appreciate the kind words!
Brilliant, so much history. Spooky too.
Thanks MCM. Finding out the history is all part of the thrill and beauty of exploring, at least for me. I find it simply astounding that some of these industrial sites employed thousands, sometimes tens of thousands…and they helped cities thrive. Then one day the companies are just gone, and like mammoth road kill left to rot.